From a legitimate scholar
Tim Stellar from the Arizona Star has been following the "Gulen-inspired" school movement since April, and published another story about it on December 22, 2010.
Stellar quotes Professor Joshua Hendrick who has researched the movement extensively, including the evolution of the charter school movement in the United States.
"What is mindboggling to some and infuriating to others is, why do leaders deny affiliation when affiliation is clear" (Hendricks)?
We have asked that same question repeatedly -- from the inception of our website. If Gulen's movement is so "innocent" then why do the brothers refuse to admit that the mass charter school operation, both in the United States and world-wide, is in fact part of the Gulen movement?
And if brother Gulen is simply a benevolent educational leader on a mission to help our poor undereducated American children, then why does he and his "brotherhood" lie, deceive, and simply refuse to admit that they are all part of one massive movement?
You have to love the quote from Y. Alp Aslandogan, director of the Institute for Interfaith Dialog in Houston,, whose response to their (Gulenites) secrecy or lack of transparency is "That repeatedly in Turkey's history, people affiliated with movements such as the one led by Fethullah Gülen have been blacklisted, jailed or killed for their affiliations."
Newsflash Aslandogan, the Gulenites are doing exactly the same thing to their own people -- having Turkish guys and gals who broke away from Gulen blacklisted, fired, threatened, and jailed (because Gulen owns most of the Turkish police force and judges), simply because they no longer want to be associated with his cult or corrupt activities.
And here's another great quote from Aslandogan, "Turkish people saw in them something that they lacked for decades. That is trust. They saw people who they could trust with their money, trust with their children. I call it the limitless, interest-free credit card of the Gülen Movement," he said.
That's hilarious -- using the words "money and trust" in the same sentence, especially when it comes to the Gulenites running our schools. We do not know how they do things in Turkey, but over here, money-laundering and extortion are not exactly "trustworthy" activities.
He's right about it being "limitless," because it appears that our government has conveniently turned a blind eye to anything and everything that the Gulen movement has done in this country for the past 10 years, and their opportunities to exploit American educators, parents, and children are in fact, "limitless."
And if the Turkish people "trust" him so much, why doesn't Gulen go back to Turkey, where according to Aslandogan, they trust him "with their children," and leave ours alone?
Below is Stellar's full story, and check out the website to review the 90-minute lecture):
http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/senor-reporter/article_78c5b71e-0e01-11e0-9e51-001cc4c03286.html
In a public presentation this month, one of the USA's foremost researchers of Turkey's Gulen Movement called on its representatives in the United States to acknowledge their affiliation with the movement.
(A video of the approximately 90-minute discussion is here.)
In a public discussion at Rice University in Houston, sociologist Joshua Hendrick said the movement's tendency toward ambiguity and opacity is causing a backlash in the United States. He also said the movement operates what amounts to the largest chain of charter schools in the United States, with 150 schools, compared to 99 for the second-largest chain.
"What is mindboggling to some and infuriating to others is, why do leaders deny affiliation when affiliation is clear?," Hendrick said in the Dec. 9 presentation. "It seems to me that we have a communication breakdown. There is cross-cultural miscommunication that is happening that is leading to increasingly divisive conversation in the United States."
In response, one of the Gülen Movement's leading intellectuals said the movement's tendency toward ambiguity stems from its roots in Turkey. Y. Alp Aslandogan, director of the Institute for Interfaith Dialog in Houston, said that repeatedly in Turkey's history, people affiliated with movements such as the one led by Fethullah Gülen have been blacklisted, jailed or killed for their affiliations.
"They cannot be as transparent as a citizen of the United States," he said.
The discussion was momentous for people like me who have been following the spread of Turkish-run charter schools in the United States. I first wrote about Tucson's Sonoran Science Academy, its high use of H-1B visas and its connections to the Gülen Movement in an April package of stories and later on this blog.
Hendrick, now at the University of Oregon, has become a highly sought source because he is one of the few independent scholars who has researched the movement in depth, spending months with Gulenists in Turkey. His tone was surprisingly blunt when discussing their activities in the United States.
Hendrick laid out what he called a public relations effort to market Gülen around the United States. The schools and connected "dialog" institutes hold interfaith dinners, make visits to elected officials, hand out awards, hold conferences on the Gulen movement and take influential people on trips to Turkey, he said.
"It’s a very conscious brand that is passed on to very consciously selected people," Hendrick said.
Aslandogan objected to Hendrick's interpretation of the movement as making a public relations effort, calling the categorization cynical. He also explained why Turks have found the movement so appealing.
"Turkish people saw in them something that they lacked for decades. That is trust. They saw people who they could trust with their money, trust with their children. I call it the limitless, interest-free credit card of the Gülen Movement," he said.
He also explained the cautiousness of many Gülen followers to acknowledge their affiliation as a reaction to wild critiques of the movement as an Islamist threat or akin to the Ayatollah Khomeini's followers in the 1970s.
That kind of attack, Aslandogan said, leads to the cautious, ambiguous resposes.
This to me was one of the weaker points made by Aslandogan, in that I think it gets the chronology wrong. The obscuring of the schools' connections to the Gulen movement came well before the spread of wild, anti-Islamic critiques in the United States.
But they are out there, and Hendrick contends they'll keep spreading as long as the movement keeps cloaking itself in deniability. The "employment of ambiguity" and "lack of transparency" invites critics, he said.
Of course, my mind then drifts to the alternative. What if superintendents overseeing 150 charter schools in the United States suddenly started acknowledging their affiliation to a prominent Muslim leader? Might that not cause an even bigger wave of critiques?
Posted in Senor-reporter on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:00 pm Updated: 1:11 pm.
Stellar quotes Professor Joshua Hendrick who has researched the movement extensively, including the evolution of the charter school movement in the United States.
"What is mindboggling to some and infuriating to others is, why do leaders deny affiliation when affiliation is clear" (Hendricks)?
We have asked that same question repeatedly -- from the inception of our website. If Gulen's movement is so "innocent" then why do the brothers refuse to admit that the mass charter school operation, both in the United States and world-wide, is in fact part of the Gulen movement?
And if brother Gulen is simply a benevolent educational leader on a mission to help our poor undereducated American children, then why does he and his "brotherhood" lie, deceive, and simply refuse to admit that they are all part of one massive movement?
You have to love the quote from Y. Alp Aslandogan, director of the Institute for Interfaith Dialog in Houston,, whose response to their (Gulenites) secrecy or lack of transparency is "That repeatedly in Turkey's history, people affiliated with movements such as the one led by Fethullah Gülen have been blacklisted, jailed or killed for their affiliations."
Newsflash Aslandogan, the Gulenites are doing exactly the same thing to their own people -- having Turkish guys and gals who broke away from Gulen blacklisted, fired, threatened, and jailed (because Gulen owns most of the Turkish police force and judges), simply because they no longer want to be associated with his cult or corrupt activities.
And here's another great quote from Aslandogan, "Turkish people saw in them something that they lacked for decades. That is trust. They saw people who they could trust with their money, trust with their children. I call it the limitless, interest-free credit card of the Gülen Movement," he said.
That's hilarious -- using the words "money and trust" in the same sentence, especially when it comes to the Gulenites running our schools. We do not know how they do things in Turkey, but over here, money-laundering and extortion are not exactly "trustworthy" activities.
He's right about it being "limitless," because it appears that our government has conveniently turned a blind eye to anything and everything that the Gulen movement has done in this country for the past 10 years, and their opportunities to exploit American educators, parents, and children are in fact, "limitless."
And if the Turkish people "trust" him so much, why doesn't Gulen go back to Turkey, where according to Aslandogan, they trust him "with their children," and leave ours alone?
Below is Stellar's full story, and check out the website to review the 90-minute lecture):
http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/senor-reporter/article_78c5b71e-0e01-11e0-9e51-001cc4c03286.html
In a public presentation this month, one of the USA's foremost researchers of Turkey's Gulen Movement called on its representatives in the United States to acknowledge their affiliation with the movement.
(A video of the approximately 90-minute discussion is here.)
In a public discussion at Rice University in Houston, sociologist Joshua Hendrick said the movement's tendency toward ambiguity and opacity is causing a backlash in the United States. He also said the movement operates what amounts to the largest chain of charter schools in the United States, with 150 schools, compared to 99 for the second-largest chain.
"What is mindboggling to some and infuriating to others is, why do leaders deny affiliation when affiliation is clear?," Hendrick said in the Dec. 9 presentation. "It seems to me that we have a communication breakdown. There is cross-cultural miscommunication that is happening that is leading to increasingly divisive conversation in the United States."
In response, one of the Gülen Movement's leading intellectuals said the movement's tendency toward ambiguity stems from its roots in Turkey. Y. Alp Aslandogan, director of the Institute for Interfaith Dialog in Houston, said that repeatedly in Turkey's history, people affiliated with movements such as the one led by Fethullah Gülen have been blacklisted, jailed or killed for their affiliations.
"They cannot be as transparent as a citizen of the United States," he said.
The discussion was momentous for people like me who have been following the spread of Turkish-run charter schools in the United States. I first wrote about Tucson's Sonoran Science Academy, its high use of H-1B visas and its connections to the Gülen Movement in an April package of stories and later on this blog.
Hendrick, now at the University of Oregon, has become a highly sought source because he is one of the few independent scholars who has researched the movement in depth, spending months with Gulenists in Turkey. His tone was surprisingly blunt when discussing their activities in the United States.
Hendrick laid out what he called a public relations effort to market Gülen around the United States. The schools and connected "dialog" institutes hold interfaith dinners, make visits to elected officials, hand out awards, hold conferences on the Gulen movement and take influential people on trips to Turkey, he said.
"It’s a very conscious brand that is passed on to very consciously selected people," Hendrick said.
Aslandogan objected to Hendrick's interpretation of the movement as making a public relations effort, calling the categorization cynical. He also explained why Turks have found the movement so appealing.
"Turkish people saw in them something that they lacked for decades. That is trust. They saw people who they could trust with their money, trust with their children. I call it the limitless, interest-free credit card of the Gülen Movement," he said.
He also explained the cautiousness of many Gülen followers to acknowledge their affiliation as a reaction to wild critiques of the movement as an Islamist threat or akin to the Ayatollah Khomeini's followers in the 1970s.
That kind of attack, Aslandogan said, leads to the cautious, ambiguous resposes.
This to me was one of the weaker points made by Aslandogan, in that I think it gets the chronology wrong. The obscuring of the schools' connections to the Gulen movement came well before the spread of wild, anti-Islamic critiques in the United States.
But they are out there, and Hendrick contends they'll keep spreading as long as the movement keeps cloaking itself in deniability. The "employment of ambiguity" and "lack of transparency" invites critics, he said.
Of course, my mind then drifts to the alternative. What if superintendents overseeing 150 charter schools in the United States suddenly started acknowledging their affiliation to a prominent Muslim leader? Might that not cause an even bigger wave of critiques?
Posted in Senor-reporter on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:00 pm Updated: 1:11 pm.
